DocumentaireAnnée2021Durée1h 18mIMDb3.8

You Can't Kill Meme

Name: You Can't Kill Meme
Genre: Documentaire
Released: 2021-08-15
Rating: 3.8

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A hybrid documentary feature film about the genesis of "memetic magick" and its application by the alt-right in the United States

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Hayley Garrigus

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Sean Bell

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Billy Brujo

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Carole Michaella

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Kirk R. Packwood

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Nick Peterson

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Hayley Garrigus

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10 commentaires

mpasisetefaneMay 29, 2023

source: You Can't Kill Meme

ياسر عبد الوهابMay 23, 2023

Many of the concepts and mind experiments have some validity in theory, but you need to hear it from the unfiltered point of view to truly appreciate the delusion and how they have taken things way too far. Yes, writing things down makes it more likely you will follow up. Yes, things can go viral and impact thoughts of the public (Shamanism IS a valid social construct) by appealing to the lowest common denominator. No, this is NOT magic. It is sociology and anthropology, and they are treating it like magic. I do wish the film makers had done some research on the concepts that this movement have bastardized and presented it as some counterpoint. I also get the impression that the film maker allowed the "guests" to dictate the terms. I don't feel this removes the importance or relevance of the content, but it absolutely could have been done better.

مۘــطــڼۨــﯟڅۡ🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥May 23, 2023

The movie itself sucks, but the absolute insanity of the interviews could make for a funny watch. The editing of degraded jpegs, seemingly random found footage, and awkward camera angles screams amateur, yet it really has me wondering if the director believes in this chaos magick, willing reality into existence, poltergeists, WitchTok, and other wacky ideologies. The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper with each new interview. The director really blurred the lines if these are trolls or real people who believe in this, and even more so for her actual belief. But whether she is exploiting these looneys, or if they are actually actors, or if the director has completely immersed herself into this world of madness, it's a unique video that will leave you questioning the sanity of this world and the people on it. Maybe one day we will actually see "Level 1".

sandra nguessan 👑May 23, 2023

The documentary was very disorganized and I was left confused throughout. It didn't seem like a documentary that would make Hulu's cut. It was edited like an amateur YouTube video. The only good points made were about meme magic and how memes can affect the real world. A lot of the interviews were weird and didn't strongly add to the documentary's point and just became more disjointed. The voice actress sounded bored throughout and made it very disengaging. Don't recommend, waste of time. You can learn more on YouTube about "meme magic" in a shorter amount of time lol.

Wathoni AnyansiMay 23, 2023

...Or rather attempt to watch. You can't be serious. I still can't figure out if this is satire or not. It's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. This is a prank, right? This actually has to be a prank. It has to be satire. If it's satire then it would be funny. Reminds me of other satire mock-umentaries such as "clouds are satanic illuminati propaganda". This absolutely 100% has to be satire otherwise it makes zero effing sense. Chaos magick? What!?!?!? Bro it's a meme. What language are these people even speaking. I really just felt like I was missing something. After momentarily being stunned by rapidly flashing black and white lights in the beginning that PROBABLY could give someone a seizure - for gods sake man. People have epilepsy. I hate those crappy effects. Anyways, did you see Rick Astley in the beginning? Yeah, we all just got rickrolled. This whole video was a prank for sure. It's fake. Definitely fake. The creators are laughing in their basements right now cuz we fell for it! Ah, I'll play along... In conclusion to my review, I shall activate the ultimate sigil chant, now close your eyes and say it with me folks: "Big big chungus big chungus big chungus!" There, now the world will end and astral neo-fascists will return under Lord Zeemoog's reptilian agenda... Or something... It's the internet folks. Should we really be suprised? I'd give zero stars. Negative stars. ....black holes? One star purely because I liked seeing the memes and hyperrealistic baby Pepe. That's a rare one.

Reham ✨ رهام الشرقاويMay 23, 2023

I came into this documentary thinking that this was going to be actual, reasomable insight into the origins behind popular memes (such as Pepe) and their relation to online white supremacist groups, but this quickly turned into absolute nonsensical drivel about "chaos magic". It completely ruined the credibility of the documentary, especially since it's main interviewees were internet armchair "experts" who were too afraid to even show their faces because they're absolute knuckle dragging keyboard warriors. Do not waste your time on this.

Evie🍫May 23, 2023

It is over an hour of bumbling rambled interviews. Given from fringe society basement goblins. While the interviewer is trying to ask actual questions. I feel bad for the interviewer who really did try to make a documentary on an interesting idea. However her subjects were just plain incoherent.

SurenMay 23, 2023

This is a strange documentary. I hadn't read the description and expected some kind of breezy documentary about memes, but this film posits that memes are actually employed as sigils and hypersigils in the context of chaos magick, and so things are dark right from the outset. I'm not sure I fully buy the central premise of the documentary. I don't really know the extent to which these online communities had an impact on the 2016 election, which was, as far as I can tell, a reaction to the Obama presidency and social progress moving at a clip which terrified a lot of people. Even assessing the alt-right as a whole, I don't know how it breaks down between edgy 4chan trolls vs. Garden variety working class bigots, who may not have any connection with meme warfare or care much about the Internet. Still, there is something unsettling here. I was surprised the documentary didn't discuss Edward Bernays and the way similar systems of manipulation have been employed in the context of business and capitalism (e.g., advertising). The concept of manipulating people in this way is not new; the particular spin it takes in online forums, and especially the people trafficking in these techniques is, perhaps, unique to the modern age. And more to the point, as to criticisms of this documentary, this central point is missed: whether something is hokum or not has depressingly little connection to its efficaciousness: there are endless examples of human history of complete insanity and ludicrous lies having a cratering impact. I have been genuinely surprised the degree to which these online cults have been attractive to people. And there seems to be little correlation between the stupidity of the worldviews they're selling and the IQ of the people who buy into them, which is to say, there are a lot of very intelligent people buying into some very stupid, harmful ideas. Which, perhaps, speaks to a conversation we haven't had which is long overdue: intelligence -- that is, IQ -- and wisdom, are not the same things. Grain of salt and all, but I find it hard to dismiss the central idea here entirely, The most interesting thing here is the assertion that the power lies with the collective (vs. Individualist) expression of this technique, and especially the idea that the alt-right seems to have out-collective'd the left, somehow. I would not have bet on this 20 years ago, but a whole lot of demented ideological pathologies have switched places in those decades, and the Internet may well have something -- maybe a lot -- to do with it. That this is a form of mass insanity is a mundane and obvious conclusion. If you believe insanity is doomed to failure, you're not going to see much point here. If you believe in the power of mass insanity to disrupt, subvert, and destroy -- and I certainly do -- this is a far more disconcerting documentary.

WeshMay 23, 2023

You know those dopey things you see online all the time - memes? 99% of them seem to have been ineptly stitched together by people with room temperature IQs, right? Well, guess what? Those memes, according to the authors of this busload-of-twaddle documentary, are PURE MAGIC!!! That's right - they are the work of dark magicians operating on an astral plane, and they have the power to subvert the universe! Boy, was I surprised. Especially since this "documentary" is stitched together with found footage that has almost nothing to do with the subject matter, along with interviews with some of the goofiest humanoids I have ever seen captured on celluloid. If you have an overpowering urge to waste 90 minutes of your time on sheer idiocy, may I suggest that you go with Plan 9 from Outer Space instead? At least you'll get a couple of laughs out of that.

🦋Eddyessien🦋May 23, 2023

A political meme - you've seen them if you're on social media - is a purposefully designed visual framing of a position that is created to deliver an inside joke, trigger an emotional reaction and create a sense of belonging. Memes are an entirely new form of political communication and attempts to use them for good and ill are growing rapidly. They're also close in use and form to sigils, the secret language used in chaos magic. Is that intentional? Or do you need to know it's magic to use the power? Director/cinematographer Hayley Garrigus made a three-year descent into the anonymous internet underworld to explore the genesis of memetic magic. She was also able to get information from both sides of the political spectrum, such as Memetic Magic: Manipulation of the Root Social Matrix and the Fabric of Reality author R. Kirk Patwood, Billy Brujo, Carole Michaella, Sean Bell, Nick Peterson, Mason Inglaessia, "User 666" and "Marianne" and more. This film won't give you any easy answers, as both the right and left are given equal time. This has upset some people that reviewed the film, as there's no condemnation for anything in this film. Instead, it's fascinated by the fact that memes potentially enabled political candidates to be elected. As someone that has experience with both chaos magic and binding rituals against political figures, as well as creating memes for both personal and professional uses, I understand what this film is trying to state. However, it's pretty scattershot and moves in plenty of directions. Yet that's just why it's so fascinating, much like the woman who claims that she knows that Obama has walked on Mars and is working to kill all of humanity, but then pauses to ask if Garrigus would like some tea.

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